28 thoughts on “Android N: Will It Fix Fragmentation?”
3 years later, fragmentation is quite real… Here I have Android 7, Android 8.0.0 and Android 8.1.0 on 3 devices that are max 3 years old and that cost 1000$ each.
After 1 year…this problem proof to be not possible to solve!!!
didnt they say that 2 years ago? one song to describe android "living on a prayer"
just buy a Nexus and be happy 😀
can you show the source for the information you said about back end and front end. . .
Will the "backend" get updated via the playstore? If that's the case, this could finish off fragmentation. Even older devices with powerful enough hardware could be updated to the latest and greatest!
nothing
the front end distinction is part of what makes the manufacturer's great HTC Sense, Motorola bar, Samsung TouchWiz and so on. button fix on security and upgrade ability for all phones for the future means a much better experience across the board
google: got a problem we will fix it. Literally I thought they would never fix this until Android z which would make it the final version of Android.
DOES THIS MEAN EVERY PHONE WILL GET ANDROID N??????
That's why my next upgrade will be a Nexus device. I'm tired of always being out of the loop with my devices.
The clearest thing this video shows is that TouchWiz still makes high-end Samsungs lag like a $50 phone.
nowadays updates are merely cosmetic , and don't add anything to existing devices more than slowing them down further…
The IOS 9 update kills devices from Iphone 5S and below..
Android M & N update brings little but age-old touchwiz features to boring stock android.. (nothings changed on samsung devices) , kitkat was blazing fast/optimised already
Updates and fragmantation are just a petty excuses , my note 2 with kitkat still runs fine and fast , just like my iphone 5 with IOS 6
The real question is ; How far back is really the definition of back according to google? Will some OEM's like Xiaomi who build a complete custom OS out of android be able to still retain that control?
Google should have thought of this 5 years ago. Everyone is happy with their crappy iPhones right now. What the hells is wrong with you Google???
Personally I don't think carriers should have any power over the software other then whats needed to make it run on their service. They will only abuse it by loading bloat and even advertise on it on the OS level. The manufacturer should be able to put apps on it to interface with their special hardware and add features but never be allowed to subtract from OS level features. IE Block you from notifications. or remove toggles the phone supports.
Really appreciate the topic. Being an Android dev I feel frustrated about having to support or even focus on age old platform versions. It's particularly bad on tablet devices, where the majority of active users are running versions like Android 4.1.2. I can't stress enough how this problem is holding us back from making our apps shine. I feel we often deliver a mediocre experience on both old and new OS versions as a consequence. You see, me and my colleagues even make fun of new OS version specific features. Saying that even after they launch it'll take at least a few years before investing time in implementing such features becomes worthwhile. I really hope that Android N can tackle these fragmentation problems. But again: it'll probably be about five years from now before that really takes off.
I think it will help with fragmentation, but for phones as far back as mid 2015. Anything older than that is almost guaranteed to be left out. I don't see Samsung wanting to update their 3487298172 different models to Android N….
My galaxy s6 straight on 5.0.2. Like wtf?
nice
I hope this is true could make things way easier for everyone
I think Android N is gonna be the answer to all our prays 😊ðŸ‘Â😇 I can't wait for it to be in the market! ðŸ˜Â😙â¤
I don't give a crap anymore… Nexus only for me!
Fragmentation need to be fixed for timely update of android roms especially oem ones.
I still use ice cream sammy
How would Android N fix fragmentation? A new version of Android is simply going to create more fragmentation lol
nope, unless it lands on all devices from the last 2 to 3 years by summer 2016.
fragmentation will always exist due to older phones still in the wild
pure speculation
So, would anybody like to actually present some kind of evidence that this video is even remotely accurate? The AOSP code isn't out yet, so there's no proof there. The factory images show no signs of the type of restructuring necessary for something like this. I'm just saying, these are some really tall claims to make without pointing to something to back them up. I'm genuinely interested.
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3 years later, fragmentation is quite real… Here I have Android 7, Android 8.0.0 and Android 8.1.0 on 3 devices that are max 3 years old and that cost 1000$ each.
After 1 year…this problem proof to be not possible to solve!!!
didnt they say that 2 years ago? one song to describe android "living on a prayer"
just buy a Nexus and be happy 😀
can you show the source for the information you said about back end and front end. . .
Will the "backend" get updated via the playstore? If that's the case, this could finish off fragmentation. Even older devices with powerful enough hardware could be updated to the latest and greatest!
nothing
the front end distinction is part of what makes the manufacturer's great HTC Sense, Motorola bar, Samsung TouchWiz and so on. button fix on security and upgrade ability for all phones for the future means a much better experience across the board
google: got a problem we will fix it.
Literally I thought they would never fix this until Android z which would make it the final version of Android.
DOES THIS MEAN EVERY PHONE WILL GET ANDROID N??????
That's why my next upgrade will be a Nexus device. I'm tired of always being out of the loop with my devices.
The clearest thing this video shows is that TouchWiz still makes high-end Samsungs lag like a $50 phone.
nowadays updates are merely cosmetic , and don't add anything to existing devices more than slowing them down further…
The IOS 9 update kills devices from Iphone 5S and below..
Android M & N update brings little but age-old touchwiz features to boring stock android.. (nothings changed on samsung devices) , kitkat was blazing fast/optimised already
Updates and fragmantation are just a petty excuses , my note 2 with kitkat still runs fine and fast , just like my iphone 5 with IOS 6
The real question is ; How far back is really the definition of back according to google? Will some OEM's like Xiaomi who build a complete custom OS out of android be able to still retain that control?
Google should have thought of this 5 years ago. Everyone is happy with their crappy iPhones right now. What the hells is wrong with you Google???
Personally I don't think carriers should have any power over the software other then whats needed to make it run on their service. They will only abuse it by loading bloat and even advertise on it on the OS level. The manufacturer should be able to put apps on it to interface with their special hardware and add features but never be allowed to subtract from OS level features. IE Block you from notifications. or remove toggles the phone supports.
Really appreciate the topic. Being an Android dev I feel frustrated about having to support or even focus on age old platform versions. It's particularly bad on tablet devices, where the majority of active users are running versions like Android 4.1.2. I can't stress enough how this problem is holding us back from making our apps shine. I feel we often deliver a mediocre experience on both old and new OS versions as a consequence. You see, me and my colleagues even make fun of new OS version specific features. Saying that even after they launch it'll take at least a few years before investing time in implementing such features becomes worthwhile. I really hope that Android N can tackle these fragmentation problems. But again: it'll probably be about five years from now before that really takes off.
I think it will help with fragmentation, but for phones as far back as mid 2015. Anything older than that is almost guaranteed to be left out. I don't see Samsung wanting to update their 3487298172 different models to Android N….
My galaxy s6 straight on 5.0.2. Like wtf?
nice
I hope this is true could make things way easier for everyone
I think Android N is gonna be the answer to all our prays 😊ðŸ‘Â😇 I can't wait for it to be in the market! ðŸ˜Â😙â¤
I don't give a crap anymore… Nexus only for me!
Fragmentation need to be fixed for timely update of android roms especially oem ones.
I still use ice cream sammy
How would Android N fix fragmentation? A new version of Android is simply going to create more fragmentation lol
nope, unless it lands on all devices from the last 2 to 3 years by summer 2016.
fragmentation will always exist due to older phones still in the wild
pure speculation
So, would anybody like to actually present some kind of evidence that this video is even remotely accurate? The AOSP code isn't out yet, so there's no proof there. The factory images show no signs of the type of restructuring necessary for something like this. I'm just saying, these are some really tall claims to make without pointing to something to back them up. I'm genuinely interested.